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(upbeat music) - Oh, snap is this real - How are you doing? - Hi Biden, how are you? - How are you? The name's Joe. - Well, hello there Joe. - As a matter of fact, watch me and my daughter. the love of my life, the life of my love. She's a fan of yours. - Hi, how are you? - Hi, how are you? - This is Ashley. - Good how you doing. - You know the nickname she gave her father when she was growing up. She'd call me Joey B. So we may be related or something. - Yeah, Cardi B, Joey B. (laughs) - Well hello there Joey B, how're you doing? I feel so crazy, 'cause I feel like I'm a little bit late, but Biden let me tell you something. When you have kids, my age, like the one my age, two years old. Your schedule never go as planned. You know, what I'm saying? - You're telling me? I have 4 kids five grandkids, come on. I'm an expert. I understand about kids. The most important thing in the world. They come first. - Yes, definitely. Always. My kid go first for real. (smirks) - Keep it that way. - So Joe, I heard you got some questions for me - Oh, I do have some questions for you. First of all, I wanna congratulate you for the cover of Elle, I tell you that's pretty good. That's pretty big time. Number one, doesn't surprise me you're on the cover. But number two, thanks for your generosity. Dealing with people who are suffering from COVID. This is, there's so many people who needlessly are in trouble, who are needlessly have died when they didn't have to. If we had taken the precautions we needed to, and thank you, you have a generous heart, you have a generous heart. And what I wanted to know was, tell me what's your main interest in terms of this election? - I have a whole list of things that I want and I wish and I desire, for our next president to do for us. But first thing first, let me give it a book. I just want Trump out. You know what I'm saying? I just feel like his mouth gets us in trouble so much. I don't want to be, be lied to. I don't want, like you know, we're dealing with a pandemic right now, right? And I just want answers. I wanna know when this is over. Like you know, I wanna go back to my job. I wanna be able to go outside. I wanna be able not to feel like I'm trapped in my home. And, but I don't want somebody to lie to me and tell me that it's okay to go outside. It's okay, not to wear a mask that everything is going to be okay. No, I want like a timeline of when things are gonna get better. I want a president to tell me what are the steps for us to get better. Besides, taking precautions like with our mask and quarantining. I need somebody to tell me like, this is gonna be over when we find this cure, this is why it's taking so long. This is why other countries are doing better than ours when it comes to this pandemic. I need somebody to tell me the truth, the hardcore truth. And also, I of course want free medicare. And this is why it's important to have free Medicare 'cause look what's happening right now. You see what? We should have free Medicare for a long time. I of course think that we need, free college education. That's second and I want black people to stop getting killed and no justice for it. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. I just want more stricter laws that is fair to black citizens. And you know, its fair for cops to, if kill somebody that is, that doesn't have a weapon on them you go to jail. You know what? If I kill somebody, I gotta go to jail. You gotta go to jail too. (purrs) That's what I want. And it's so sad that a pandemic, has to happen so people could open their eyes and see what type of person are they dealing with? You know, what I'm saying? Like it's like, you're really confusing the people. like one day, you're telling them that this is nothing that people need to stop getting tested 'cause they're gonna get it anyways. Next thing you know, you have a mask in your face and you're really playing games not with us, not the woos. You're playing games with the people that support you. All of this have to happen. This crazy stuff that have to happen so they can open their eyes for the past four years. - Well, it doesn't have to happen. For example, in 2016, if 18 to 23 or four year olds, have voted in the same percentage as the rest of the population we would have had Hillary Clinton, not him. The vote matters. That's why you keep talking to people about the need to vote. The vote matters. It matters a great deal. And so we gotta take. look, the generation, your generation and the young millennials beyond that, they can own this. They can own this outcome and they can own what happens in the next election. They are the ones that can change things dramatically. If they show up and vote. Tell me what your fans most say to you when they communicate with you online. What are they most concerned about? - Obviously free college education, free Medicare, especially now that people are just getting sick left to right ,left to right. And that's why I keep telling people because sometimes people have problems in they community, they just wonder, like, for example, a lot of afterschool programs that I was growing up with, there's no afterschool programs a lot anymore in my hood. - That's right, nowhere. - And its like people are just wondering why? Why is that? - 'Cause people don't wanna pay the taxes for it. And that's why this whole thing about government's bad has been such a downer for the things that really matter to you and me. I was doing very well as a single dad when my wife and daughter got killed and I had two boys that survived that accident. I didn't have the money to have someone take care of my kids. Thank God I had my sister and my brother and my mother who helped me. My sister moved in with me, with she and her husband. But look at all the people that don't have that kind of help. - And you wanna know something talking to you, I'm always so focused on Medicare and college education. And I never really thought about how important is childcare. You know what I'm saying? Because don't think nobody's more motivated than a mom. Nobody wanna go and hustle out there and get that money for the kid. Once you become a mom you changed, completely. Your mindset, your mindset changed completely, but it's like, how are you supposed to do that, when you probably don't have a babysitter for your kid? And I'm like, fortunately for me, I'm able to, I have my mom take care of my child. But a lot of people, like, as they say, they mom cannot retire and take care of they kids. Like their mom has to work too. One of the things that, that I admire about you is you keep talking about what I call equity. Just decency, fairness, treating people with respect. John Lewis used to say, "the vote is the most powerful nonviolent tool you have. Used the power to change for the change you want by voting." Look, I'm a lot older than you to state the obvious. When I was in high school, what happened was, we had the Civil Rights Movement just being started. And what happened? Along came Bull Connor and his dogs. He thought he was gonna drive a wooden stake into the heart of the Civil Rights Movement. But when all those folks who never realized, never saw before what was happening in the South. They lived in places where there were very few black people didn't know any black people. All of a sudden they saw Bull Connor with dogs ripping off the clothes of black women. Not only women going to church and kids being knocked down with fire hoses and their skin being ripped off. All of a sudden, as Dr. King said, "we had the second emancipation, we had the voting rights act and we had the civil rights act." It changed things because people said, "Oh my God, that's happening." I think I heard you say somewhere in a long line, when I've been saying. This cell phone has changed America. Because what happens now, we're at a point where some brave kid, 15 years old can stand there. And for a total of 8 minutes and 46 seconds take a photograph of a black man whose family I know and met with and understand and spent time with and watched him brutally murdered, brutally murdered. And people around the world were saying, "my God, did this really happen?" Because I'm not in a neighborhood like that. I don't come from a place and now guess what? They're demanding change. - Like people, we're not asking for sympathy. We're not asking for charity. We are just asking for equality. We are asking for fairness and we are asking for justice. That is all. I feel like, everything, everything that people are asking for is getting interpreted in a very different way. No, it's simple. We just want justice. That's all. We want justice. We wanna feel like Americans. We want equality. - Treat me with respect. - Yes with respect. - That's where I think you're seeing a real to, like I have a friend who is a Congressman in Mississippi, Betty Thompson and a very well known Congressman African-American. He called me two weeks ago. He said, Joe, Joe, I just came from a, a protest in Mississippi. He said, "and I looked out there and there were" I forgot how many people. he said, "there were as many white kids marching as black kids. This is Mississippi Joe things are changing Joe." The reason I'm so optimistic is because of your generation. You're the smartest, the best educated, the least prejudiced and the most engaged generation in American history. And you're gonna change things. You're gonna change them. You're the reason I have such incredible hope. I really mean it. I'm not being, trying to be nice. It's a fact, that's what's gonna change things. The rest of the world has always looked to us. Why have they looked to us? Not because we're so powerful. But the power of our example, look what they're seeing now with this president. He's literally promoting hatred, promoting prejudism, promoting racism, talking about protecting the Confederate Flag when Mississippi takes it off their flag and he's defending it. He's talking about stats. I mean, what? This is all about, all about the game of making people hate each other. Because that's how he wins by dividing us. But you're gonna change it. Your generation has changed. And you already you're doing it. - The new generation, my fans, my people moments like this we have to go out and vote. I know that the young generation right now with social media, we are just so eager to make money, to look a certain type of way to have style, celebrity gossip. And it's like, why don't we make a change for real and just vote? And in the primaries they kept saying, well, there's not that many people voting Biden's not gonna excite anybody. We're the largest turnout in the primaries ever. People are ready, they're ready. And they know we can change it. But look, there's a lot, but we really rely on people like you. And let me tell you something. I've, the American people have never, ever, ever let their country down. Given half a chance. Never. And they've been battered by Corporate America. They've been battered by this president, particularly and the way in which he's able to continue to divide it. He appeals to the outright prejudice of some of those in that community that don't have any money. And he just appeals to their prejudice. He sputes hate. we gotta stop it. - Prejudism is just very dangerous. Like it could be a start of a civil war. It makes people feel uncomfortable around different people. Nobody wants to feel targeted. Nobody wants animosity. We just want the best for us. Everybody wants the best of they self, they future and they kids future. I don't want to live to tell my kid, like, you have to be careful going to the store. Don't wear this certain type of clothes. Don't wear a mask, don't wear a hoodie. Please don't get, stop. We don't want that. And I don't wanna feel a certain type of hate, a certain type of animosity for a different race, because I feel like they, they get it easier than us. I don't want to feel like that. Nobody wants to feel like that. I guess that why can't we just work with each other? - We can. - Racism always have, existed. But I feel like right now, there's just a lot of tension and we need somebody to clean that. I'm just so tired of it. I don't wanna deal with it. - The country has been mourning. And what you're finding now is the vast majority of the American people understand what's going on. My mom used to have an expression. She said," Joey, the greatest virtue of all is courage 'cause without courage, you couldn't love with abandon and without courage, none of the other virtues would exist. It's time for some courage and you're exercising it. You and other people of your stature who have millions of people who look to you. You're exercising, 'cause its not easy for you to do this. You're gonna get a lot of flack for the kinds of things you say. But you have the courage to stand up and say, now's the time. By the way, we're gonna have, if I get elected president, free college education for four years of college flat out. Anybody with a family less than 125 grand, you're gonna get a free education. Everybody gets free education for, for community college. Everybody wants to go on and become an, become an apprentice free. - Let me tell you about my college experience, right? - Yap. - You know, I'm from New York so when you're in high school or middle school, they give you a free MetroCard. So you could travel, for you to be able to go to your school. And of course they gave me, they gave me free lunch. When I was in college, I had to get a job because I really needed $5 every single day to be able to go from Washington Heights to Chamber Street. And then I had to feed myself. Sometimes I had to wait. I had to wait from 1:00 PM all the way to 9:00 PM. That's my schedule, to get home, so I could be able to eat. because that whole time right there, I couldn't afford to go to McDonald's. I couldn't afford to go to any restaurants around chamber street on my break and you have to pay for lunch, the school lunch there. So I was just starving and I just felt so discouraged. So I just feel like that is so important. Like to finance students while they in college. Because they get really discouraged and that's what people wanna know. People wanna know, can you provide college education, this Medicare plan without a big chunk of taxes coming out of our cheque? - The way we can pay for all of this, is doing practical things. Like making sure that, no corporation making a profit should pay less than 15% tax on their profit. None, zero. Everybody has to pay their fair share. Thank you for your willingness to help. I promise I'll make mistakes as president, but I'll admit to the mistakes I make. And you're never gonna have to wonder whether I'll keep my word. - Alright. - Thank you. - I would like to see. - Just checked me out, I've never broken my word, anything I've said I was gonna do, never in my life.

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